Maan ShadowCode was flippin' tough.

[Jonas]

@Jonas - what actually had me thinking for 15 mins was the fire sprinklers - I was damn sure there was something that activated them! Was that intended?

Yeah the sprinklers are activated when there's a fire near them, but they start out off, so you have to push the button on the wall first.

Also, shouldn't Trestkon have destroyed the local machine after dumping the AI there? I did just to be safe

Poor ShadowCode

[Morpheus]

I have to agree that Shadow Code was tough, but awesome same time. When he is in your head, that was really cool, it was awkward to get him onto the computer.

I had one minor isue when you go to find shadow code. You know on the map where the things go in and out you have to jump on before they go back and you have to get to bottom without falling into water and dying? When you get to bottom to get into the vent to go to next part, I could not seem to get into the vent at all unless I spawned a crate to jump on first.

[Trafalgar]

Yeah that's a shame, but it's essentially a tech limitation. Finding an actual work-around would've been tremendously hacky.

And now we've killed the fire trap and the turret hallway too, and we've made the electricity room entirely optional (you can go in there if you want to grab some items, but otherwise you can just walk right past it). We're doing this because obstacles where you have to take damage to get through are just plain poor design. Again: My fault.

When I went through the fire-laser-chamber and the flaming box room in 1.0.0, I got through them without taking damage, and without a fire extinguisher. If you just started running as soon as the door opened you could get to the other side before the traps fully activated. With the fire laser room you had to duck under the last laser, but with the boxes, if you started running as soon as the door opened you'd get out without getting caught by the fire. (I had to do this because I had discarded my fire extinguisher earlier and Shadowcode had locked the doors behind me so I couldn't go back for it). I don't think I used the speed aug to help me, but maybe I did.

I was annoyed that I couldn't shoot the boxes or detonate a LAM to destroy them, though. I thought I was stuck because I simply didn't have a fire extinguisher, until I realized that ShadowCode talked for long enough to run through the room before he lit up the boxes.

The problem here is redundancy. You don't have to hack all 8 control panels, you only have to hack 4 - and that's the amount of multitools lying around that area. People just sort of assume they have to hack all 8 of them, even though they should be able to hear the door opening when they've hacked 4. Plus, isn't there a countdown!?

The floor opens at the same time - personally I thought the sound belonged to that. I don't remember a countdown (in 1.0.0).

[Jonas]

You know the solution to the fire trap that you just described pretty much requires you to know what's going to happen before it happens, right? The sane reaction is to wait and see what happens, then save your game before going in when the fire has started. And by then you may have fucked yourself over irreversibly.

Anyway, it's fixed now.

As for the panels, you're right: Seems the countdown had been disabled for some reason. It will be back in version 1.0.2.

[TownWithoutJustice]

Yeah the sprinklers are activated when there's a fire near them, but they start out off, so you have to push the button on the wall first.

damn do i feel stupid...well, I blame lvl 4 speed aug and dislike of fire for missing that detail.

Great job on the 1st patch btw!

[JC_Helios]

You know the solution to the fire trap that you just described pretty much requires you to know what's going to happen before it happens, right? The sane reaction is to wait and see what happens, then save your game before going in when the fire has started. And by then you may have fucked yourself over irreversibly.

Anyway, it's fixed now.

As for the panels, you're right: Seems the countdown had been disabled for some reason. It will be back in version 1.0.2.

Maybe you could do it like in the movies, shoot the sprinkler button in order for it to activate the sprinklers from afar.

It'd certainly be cooler than just calmly fumbling through a room full of boxes as it is now. Maybe it's because I played the first version, but the turret room and fire room now stick out like a sore thumb. Any plans to replace them with anything? How about people give ideas and then we have a poll?

[teknikal]

The first iteration of the ShadowCode mission was frustratingly hard, but damn good ingenious fun nonetheless. A truly memorable experience.

Totally digged the Resident Evil movie references

[odawali]

I demand an "I beat Shadow Code on 1.0.0" shirt.

It'd certainly be cooler than just calmly fumbling through a room full of boxes as it is now. Maybe it's because I played the first version, but the turret room and fire room now stick out like a sore thumb. Any plans to replace them with anything? How about people give ideas and then we have a poll?

Yes, yes, excellent ideas.

[teknikal]

I demand an "I beat Shadow Code on 1.0.0" shirt.

Or alternatively a bumper sticker LOL

[Hassat Hunter]

(Note: I only played with 1.0.1)
Well, to offset the incredible amount of Pro-Shadowcode going on here, let me say it was my least favorite part of TNM (okay, second least). Why? Because even if I greatly enjoyed System Shock 2, it's pretty anti-DX to have to work off a series of traps in linear order. The walking around with Shadowcode-sequence sure was cool though.

The puzzle that frustrated me most was the moving lasers one. Just because they didn't activate right away, but when in the middle of the room, and somehow that meant one always hit me straight away before I could even see the laserbeam... and then burn to death. VERY annoying. I got quite agitated, until I noticed a pre-emptive EMP-strike disabled that blasted laser before activation, allowing me to pass.

As for the burning boxes, that sounds very cool. I already wondered what the hell the deal was with that room with the undestructable overflow of boxes, it surely sounds like a shame it's gone. Even though I haven't experienced it myself, allowing to destroy the boxes sounds like a sollution to the afore mentioned issues, and it would add coolness it now lacks.

[Jonas]

it's pretty anti-DX to have to work off a series of traps in linear order

Yeah, that was the point

[RatherAnnoyed]

I've been playing TNM for two days and i love it But i can't seem to get past the ai packet puzzle Please help me with this?
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edit Numbered one Help nuw?

[chris the cynic]

Doesn't look all that nice, but unless I've confused myself it is a solution.

[RatherAnnoyed]

thank you soooooooo much

[Scotch]

Hmm the box room never lit on fire for me, then again I was travelling along the wall border by the sprinkler system, so maybe I never triggered them...

I can proudly proclaim that I survived the resident evil room on my first try, not using any speed augs whatsoever. I also survived the jumping puzzle as well, but I did use speed augs for that.