What the hell?

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Wed May 07, 2008 10:19 pm

Yeah, I'd like to see the bots, will they be shown soon?

Dead-eye · Post by **Dead-eye** » Wed May 07, 2008 11:14 pm

mmmm... modeling robots, thats something I'm good at... I think?

I really don't understand what you guys are all getting excited about. HDTP will never come out anytime soon. There is a chance it will be done before Deus Ex 3... Hopefully a little earlier. But really not anytime soon.

I wonder how HDTP can change things if it comes out near the time Deus Ex 3 dose. Would that effect CD sales? If is dose it could only be for the better... but then we would have 10 times as many Deus Ex fans who where not on this web site when it looked like Deus Ex was a dieing world. Maybe we should form a group all the fans of Deus Ex after inviable war. You know your a die hard fan then... I guess.

Salk · Post by **Salk** » Thu May 08, 2008 5:00 am

Personally I am excited by the fact that HDTP is progressing.

And how do you know that there won't be a release anytime soon, Dead-eye?

Post by **Jonas** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:21 am

Dead-eye wrote:I really don't understand what you guys are all getting excited about. HDTP will never come out anytime soon.

Says you

Maybe we should form a group all the fans of Deus Ex after inviable war.

Yes because that's exactly what the Deus Ex community needs: More arbitrary elitism.

_Alex_ · Post by **_Alex_** » Thu May 08, 2008 7:45 am

Dead-eye wrote:mmmm... modeling robots, thats something I'm good at... I think?

I really don't understand what you guys are all getting excited about. HDTP will never come out anytime soon. There is a chance it will be done before Deus Ex 3... Hopefully a little earlier. But really not anytime soon.

I wonder how HDTP can change things if it comes out near the time Deus Ex 3 dose. Would that effect CD sales? If is dose it could only be for the better... but then we would have 10 times as many Deus Ex fans who where not on this web site when it looked like Deus Ex was a dieing world. Maybe we should form a group all the fans of Deus Ex after inviable war. You know your a die hard fan then... I guess.

All of this assumes DX3 doesnt follow in the footsteps of Harvey Smith's fecal matter, so i wouldn't count your chickens before they hatch.

Also, HDTP is an enhancement for a great game. even if a sequel comes out that *is* decent, it will still be a welcome way to bring some of the magic of DX1 back for people looking for a retro fix. I know i dust it off once every few years for another playthrough. it's like a ritual.

I dont think DX3 could possibly affect that.

CaptainObvious · Post by **CaptainObvious** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:13 am

What about trees? Have any tree models been done already? Not that there are that many of them in Deus Ex, but the original models are pretty crappy.

Back in the days when 3d accelerated graphics were younger I always used to judge the graphics quality of a game on how the trees and plants looked, since there were either none or they looked, well, not convincing most of the time.

DaveW · Post by **DaveW** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:17 am

I think it'd be cool to add a slight animation to the tree's, would make the maps look a whole lot cooler if the trees were moving a bit.

Post by **Jonas** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:35 am

Yeah I'd really like to see some plants too. The trees are my pet peeve of DX, the main factor that makes the game look ancient. Two out of three trees in DX look absolutely terrible, and the third is just really low-poly.

It would be so fantastic if more variants were modelled and DDL then coded up a randomizing function in the class' properties, but that's probably asking too much

EER · Post by **EER** » Thu May 08, 2008 9:51 am

Aren't trees static meshes? Which would mean that you'd have to change the levels?

I don't know, I'm just wondering

If not, trees would be great

Post by **metche_steele** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:56 am

Dead-eye wrote:I really don't understand what you guys are all getting excited about. HDTP will never come out anytime soon. There is a chance it will be done before Deus Ex 3... Hopefully a little earlier. But really not anytime soon.

I'm sorry - have I missed something?

Just how on Gods green earth would you know that Dead-eye? Do you have inside info on HDTP that even I don't have??

Jeez Louise

Post by **Jonas** » Thu May 08, 2008 10:57 am

There are no meshes in DX that are so static they can't be changed by their own code at run-time.

[EDIT] METCHE! We, the entitled hordes, demand screenshots of HDTP trees! Deliver or incur our wrath

CaptainObvious · Post by **CaptainObvious** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:06 am

I doubt the trees are part of the level geometry, every other game has trees as separate 3d objects, why would DX be different?

And yeah we demand to see trees! If our demands are not met I'll bite this kitties head off!

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:08 am

We have our own hires TNM Tree Jonas, look at that for a while and sate your hunger for violence.

Perhaps the tree could be the next POTW for the next TNM update?

Post by **Jonas** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:37 am

CaptainObvious wrote:I doubt the trees are part of the level geometry, every other game has trees as separate 3d objects, why would DX be different?

We're not talking about level geometry (aka. Constructive Solid Geometry, or CSG), we're talking about static meshes, which fall under the category of "seperate 3d objects". The thing is, though, that they're only called static meshes because they can't be vertex animated. There's no problem with moving, scaling, or reskinning them at runtime.

Phasmatis wrote:We have our own hires TNM Tree Jonas, look at that for a while and sate your hunger for violence.

Is that actually high-res though? Last time I looked, it was just a variant of the nicer of the old DX trees, with a similarly sized texture as the old trees, even.

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Thu May 08, 2008 11:45 am

It's hires in the fact that it has a load of polys and looks better than any tree in any game anywhere.