Lend me your cycles

Akerfeldt · Post by **Akerfeldt** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:21 pm

Man, this GFM_Dress is the model from hell.

Nameless Voice · Post by **Nameless Voice** » Fri May 16, 2008 12:52 pm

I'm still getting recv timeout.

It worked fine during the first test a few days ago.

youreoverhere · Post by **youreoverhere** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:14 pm

Working perfectly here. Glad to be able to contribute something worthwhile even with my complete lack of modeling skills

It seems to be speeding through frames on my computer, which can only be a good thing.

You HDTP guys rock, keep up the good work.

Post by **metche_steele** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:31 pm

Thank you so much all of you - you're really helping out HDTP

@Phasmatis - :p

AgentSmithereens · Post by **AgentSmithereens** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:32 pm

I'm not sure what I'm meant to be doing, but I opened the exe and at first nothing happened, but then some random lines of meaningless (to me) stuff appeared in a command prompt. I left it for a few hours as I went out and I came back and it said 'Connect failed c' and seemed to have stopped. Then it started to produce more lines again.
So is this meant to happen? Sorry, I'm not very good at computers, or at least something like this. I don't even know why I'm supposed to be doing it, something about helping HDTP

Also am I allowed to close it? It's making my computer run really slowly.

Nameless Voice · Post by **Nameless Voice** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:33 pm

I got it working now.
Turns out that the internet monitor module from Nod32 (antivirus) was interfering with it. At the time when I tested it the first time, I had, by chance, not had Nod32 active.
After making a rule for it to ignore the program, everything works again.

First time Nod32 has ever let me down...

Anyway, one more CPU on the task now!

AgentSmithereens: It should be outputting pages of output along these lines:

frame: 98, joint: r_ankle
0.000000 0.000000 0.000000

It would be nice if it also gave the filename it was working on.

Post by **Jonas** » Fri May 16, 2008 1:45 pm

Alright since Akerfeldt is a n00b who doesn't understand how to get people to help him out (first rule: actually tell them wtf they're doing), I'll put it to you as I understand it:

The crazy bastard is using some sort of physics system, in whatever animation program he's using, to calculate vertex animation based on skeletal animation. Basically he's animated the new HDTP models with skeletons, but since the DX engine doesn't support skeletons, these animations need to be translated into vertex animation (which is a lot more painful to do, hence why nobody will do it manually). These calculations are fairly taxing on ye olde CPU, so Akerfeldt - being an even crazier bastard than that - has come up with a shared processing program that distributes the calculation burden across the CPU's of all connected computers.

Understand? By running this program, you're turning Akerfeldt's modern animations into old-fashioned animations that Deus Ex can use.

Akerfeldt · Post by **Akerfeldt** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:27 pm

AgentSmithereens wrote:I'm not sure what I'm meant to be doing, but I opened the exe and at first nothing happened, but then some random lines of meaningless (to me) stuff appeared in a command prompt. I left it for a few hours as I went out and I came back and it said 'Connect failed c' and seemed to have stopped. Then it started to produce more lines again.
So is this meant to happen? Sorry, I'm not very good at computers, or at least something like this. I don't even know why I'm supposed to be doing it, something about helping HDTP Also am I allowed to close it? It's making my computer run really slowly.

It's running correctly, 'Connect failed c' just happens when the server dies. And you may close it whenever you like. In fact, you should just run it on a computer that you aren't using if you don't have a multi-core CPU.

Nameless Voice wrote:It would be nice if it also gave the filename it was working on.

That would be neat but, as the song goes, mo code mo problems.

blk wrote:btw, client is working again, thanks akerfeldt (how about a linux x64 client? i can compile it if you provide the sources)

I am considering rewriting the client and server to make them more efficient and stable. At that time I will upload the source for you,

DaveW · Post by **DaveW** » Fri May 16, 2008 3:42 pm

Jonas wrote:Alright since Akerfeldt is a n00b who doesn't understand how to get people to help him out (first rule: actually tell them wtf they're doing), I'll put it to you as I understand it:

The crazy bastard is using some sort of physics system, in whatever animation program he's using, to calculate vertex animation based on skeletal animation. Basically he's animated the new HDTP models with skeletons, but since the DX engine doesn't support skeletons, these animations need to be translated into vertex animation (which is a lot more painful to do, hence why nobody will do it manually). These calculations are fairly taxing on ye olde CPU, so Akerfeldt - being an even crazier bastard than that - has come up with a shared processing program that distributes the calculation burden across the CPU's of all connected computers.

Understand? By running this program, you're turning Akerfeldt's modern animations into old-fashioned animations that Deus Ex can use.

I'm pretty sure it's converting the vertex animations in the original Deus Ex into skeletal animations. I.e. approximating where each bone should be on each frame, so you get animations without having to remake them from scratch. Once you have that, you can apply that skeletal mesh to other models and viola - you have High Def. models with the old animations.

Post by **Jonas** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:00 pm

That sounds... like it bends the laws of computing

AgentSmithereens · Post by **AgentSmithereens** » Fri May 16, 2008 4:02 pm

Aha, I see. Thanks guys

VersaLife82 · Post by **VersaLife82** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:14 pm

Queue Empty?

blk · Post by **blk** » Fri May 16, 2008 6:15 pm

finished or another batch to go?

Dead-eye · Post by **Dead-eye** » Fri May 16, 2008 7:57 pm

Looks like my render fame helped out it on last night, and I turned my PC on this morning to help out as well. Guess we are done for now.

Question: If it's doing what everyone is saying it's doing (To keep it simple will say it's converting joint based animations to Vertex based animations) is it not true that we are doing the exact opposite of what DX:R needs to have done for it? (That is convert the old models vertex based animations to Joint Based.)

Akerfeldt · Post by **Akerfeldt** » Fri May 16, 2008 8:12 pm

Correct Dead-eye, but that's in fact not what we are doing with this program. What DaveW wrote is accurate.

In other news, I've brought the server back up with a new batch of models. Hopefully it survives till the end this time.