Moderator: HDTP Team
Publicity can make or break the "work itself". As it is, the only people really commenting on anything HDTP has come out with recently has been team members. We'll still release content as it gets completed, but there's something to be said about the "unknown" factor of a product. Will HDTP live up to the hype? If we keep the forums set up so that everyone can see the work we've done, then there will be no mysterious nature around this mod. At that point, who cares if you install HDTP, since you've already seen everything?fschepper wrote:"WOW factor".. Oh well... Didn't know that publicity is more important than the work itself
I think youre being very over reactive tbh. The guys will post in the dev journal section for your opinions as and when they are required ..whats the difference??justanotherfan wrote:I didn't much like that there was a private forum, that's fine though. Concidering how often the Screenshots area was/is updated, I'm not expecting much in developer journals. Without the ability to give feedback during development (not after development, when major changes would be frowned on), I don't see much point to being a forum regular. For someone outside the project, now HDTP will happen when it happens and it'll be seen in RSS.
Publicity and privacy are good, you know what's best for the project. I think you just killed the forums though, other than the gunther thread (which should have been in models) there's nothing popular or terribly interesting now. I didn't know the Gunther/NSF_Terrorist textures were causing such project-internal friction.
I thought there already was a hidden forum, I guess that was just MSN. I don't like the idea of a private forum (I like transparency) but it can be helpful, bigger problems can be sorted out quietly, and members can share personal information more freely, solidifying the group a bit more.Mr_Cyberpunk-Trust me its for the best, and the community still has a say. But most importantly HDTP has a place to discuss things in private rather than doing it over MSN.
Well, adding the mystery adds to the hype, making it more difficult to live up to. And I disagree that HDTP won't be installed because the new things have been seen. They haven't been played. We've seen Gunther run around a room, it's more than enough to critique him but it's entirely outside the story (I want to say "outside the game", but it's within the basic game). It doesn't matter to me how many new ammo clips and plants and ceiling fans I see, they look great because I'll play them in-game and thats what'll be great.Master_Kale-Will HDTP live up to the hype? If we keep the forums set up so that everyone can see the work we've done, then there will be no mysterious nature around this mod. At that point, who cares if you install HDTP, since you've already seen everything?
I really hate to say much about TNM since I know so little about it and it being so generous with HDTP. More than a year ago, I checked out a bunch of Deus Ex mods. The only one I found to install was the Cassandra Project, which seemed dead, everything else seemed dead, DX Retex and all that. I remember seeing TNM, there hadn't been news updates at the time and there were no releases, I figured it was dead at the time too. I can remember a few times in these forums that HDTP was assumed to be dead. My point, if I have one, is probably something about the mods seeming more like their dead than creating mystery when there isn't much discussion.Master_Kale-This is a smart move on Metche's part that I think will create a stir around what we do, much like TNM has done with keeping most of what it's done under wraps.
That won't be the case, infact I will be posting something in there soon. When I put Gunther up, I was more or less ready to call him done yet there were a load of comments about him and I changed him, that will also be the case with the rest of the characters.justanotherfan wrote: Not worried. But mopey, yeah, I think that anyone in the community would be, we've lost access to the major discussion about what the characters should look like. When a lot of progress has been made on a single model and that gets shown, the artist won't want to change it much (since it's much more "done" for them at that point), or they won't be shown anyway (the mystery bit). In any case it means there's less input from people who aren't in the project. Anyone in the project will be happy though, they can get on with what they're doing (and they don't have to listen to me whine
Hmm, you must have checked us out quite a long while ago, back when we weren't so regular with our news updates. We've been posted weekend updates for over a year now.justanotherfan wrote: I really hate to say much about TNM since I know so little about it and it being so generous with HDTP. More than a year ago, I checked out a bunch of Deus Ex mods. The only one I found to install was the Cassandra Project, which seemed dead, everything else seemed dead, DX Retex and all that. I remember seeing TNM, there hadn't been news updates at the time and there were no releases, I figured it was dead at the time too. I can remember a few times in these forums that HDTP was assumed to be dead. My point, if I have one, is probably something about the mods seeming more like their dead than creating mystery when there isn't much discussion.
