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Should Animations be modified to look more real?
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Should Animations be modified to look more real?
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Dead-eye
X-51
Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 am Posts: 942 Location: Santa Cruz, California
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 Should Animations be modified to look more real?
I think we have all been in combat before and we all know how the NPCs look when there attacking us.
They look Bad the Animations where simpule and not much time was put into them. What I am proposing is a Change in the Animations to make them look more Real to Life. We are talking about Trained Professionals, and Trained Professionals don't wake like that, Shot like That or even aked like that. (but thats out of the Soup of this mod) What would be nice too see is a new look for the Animations of the NPC's. The new NPCs should Keep the Stock of the Gun on there Shoulders at all times. When there not aiming at anything they point the gun tord the ground, with the stock still on there Shoulders. Also they would Bend there Legs and there Back to keep there head down. Among other things. It would look a lot Better
The other side to this is that it might take away form the feel of the origrnal game. If might prove too ricky and the mod isent realy here to change things. Also It might look good but useing the same AI wouldent work. It would look good at first but in combat you would have the same problem this idea is trying to fix maybe even worse.
The Best Idea is probaly to make a sepreat mod that Upgrades the AI and the Animations. But this wouldent be done by the HDTP team so it may never happen.
Last edited by Dead-eye on Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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| Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:14 pm |
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_Alex_
HDTP Member
Joined: Thu Nov 23, 2006 9:32 am Posts: 89 Location: Dundee, Scotland
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Antimasons???
are you talking about the NSF?
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| Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:37 pm |
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Dead-eye
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Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 am Posts: 942 Location: Santa Cruz, California
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woops I ment Animations.
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| Wed Nov 29, 2006 11:44 pm |
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EER
Illuminati
Joined: Sat Oct 22, 2005 7:52 pm Posts: 2483 Location: NL
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I'd have to say no, first of all I don't think it's in the scope of HDTextureP.
Secondly, I don't think realistic animations would add anything to the DX Universe. As long as the animations are smooth, I'm not complaining.
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| Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:03 am |
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Mr_Cyberpunk
Illuminati
Joined: Tue Oct 18, 2005 3:57 am Posts: 3434 Location: Adelaide, South Australia
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I brought this up about a year ago and Phas said that it was very plausable to make the Animations more realistic - aka, while moving they hold the gun down, rather than stupidly hold it gangster style.
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| Thu Nov 30, 2006 7:37 am |
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Dead-eye
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Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 am Posts: 942 Location: Santa Cruz, California
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It looks like thwe poll stoped.
-%50 Yes
-%25 No
-%25 Other
If you havent done so already feel free to poll yourself in.
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| Sat Dec 02, 2006 7:32 am |
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Darkshade
HDTP Member
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:39 am Posts: 487 Location: Washington, USA
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While EER has a point... I have to say that with all the other non-texture work we've done, -including- brand new character animations... It shouldn't be far from us to consider making the -brand new- character animations into -better- brand new character animations.
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| Sat Dec 02, 2006 8:01 am |
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Dominic_Denton
UNATCO
Joined: Sat Aug 12, 2006 12:35 am Posts: 171
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Someone should assemble a team to do what dead-eye had recommended. It wouldn't take away the original feel of the game, that's bullshit. The truth is, whether you guys want to face it or not, the dumb AI caused a numbing feeling that took away from the game. Sort of like this for example:
Ex. 1: Your hiding under the desk in the La Guardia private terminal. Your waiting for the 3 NSF troops to burst into the room and look for you. They never come. Instead, one runs around in circles to see if you will magically appear, one runs from side to side, and the other crouches down in the gun stance in another room (WITH THE DOOR CLOSED) and waits for you to be as stupid as he is. After 5 minutes, you finally say: "Ah fuck, they're wasting my fucking time on this ambush I had set up, god dammit" and leave the room and kill them the regular way.
Oh, and the animations are too bad.
P.S. Anyone seen my smoke bombs?
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| Sat Dec 02, 2006 1:06 pm |
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DDL
Traditional Evil Scientist
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:03 am Posts: 3641
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So really your issue is with the AI, more than the animations?
And you do realise that changing the animations would make absolutely no difference to the AI? And that changing the AI would be an absolute nightmare (not to mention being out of the scope of this project)?
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| Sat Dec 02, 2006 2:01 pm |
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Darkshade
HDTP Member
Joined: Tue Dec 20, 2005 3:39 am Posts: 487 Location: Washington, USA
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Oohhh, I get it -you're talking about making them tactically assault and stuff?
Good luck :S
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| Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:19 am |
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Dead-eye
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Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 am Posts: 942 Location: Santa Cruz, California
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Yes So now I'm coming to the concluson that this is realy a job for DX:R. They won't to make these kinds of add-ons they just don't have the time.
But if you made the animations look good they can make the AI good. Inless you guys are on bad terms with the DX:R team or something?
Last edited by Dead-eye on Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:51 am, edited 2 times in total.
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| Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:48 am |
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Dead-eye
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Joined: Tue Apr 25, 2006 3:45 am Posts: 942 Location: Santa Cruz, California
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| Tue Dec 05, 2006 1:49 am |
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Morpheus
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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:56 am Posts: 909 Location: A planet near mars
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The animations that do need changing:
Dance: In male GM meshes they just spin around. Thats not dancing!
Most animations are good as they are.
Thought: Maybe if an NPC gets their arm so badly injured (or chest) that they have to hold the other arm (like you do if you get shot or bleed bad from the top of your arm) e.g. get shot in left arm and its at 10% or less heath, the NPC holds it with other arm, only if they appear too injured to fight.
yes, do that as well.
Also if NPC or player gets legs shot (off) so that they are at 0% health, there should be a different texture for this, a more realistic one and AI (Rather than in third person th e player looks crouched. ,but then the player or NPC could not walk as it would look stuipd if they did...
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| Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:16 pm |
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DDL
Traditional Evil Scientist
Joined: Mon Oct 17, 2005 10:03 am Posts: 3641
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Also ragdoll physics would be good.
And drivable vehicles. We can do drivable vehicles, right? RIGHT?
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| Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:22 pm |
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Morpheus
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Joined: Thu Jan 27, 2005 9:56 am Posts: 909 Location: A planet near mars
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Umm. drivable vehicales are not really part of DX. See UNATCO Born mod. They have drivable vehiclaes apparently.
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| Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:25 pm |
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