Updating Music with Remixed PS2 Version Music?

Colej_uk · Post by **Colej_uk** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:03 pm

Do you think it would be possible? The PS2 version's music stays very true to the original, but the music has been generally improved- like a musical version of what you're doing with the graphics.

Now, I'm thinking that perhaps it would be pretty hard to do since the U engine only has umx (module music) files... The only way I could think would be to have the entire song as a wav instrument- but that would take up a stupid amount of space.

But yeah, something to think about perhaps.

Phasmatis · Post by **Phasmatis** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:37 pm

Using higher quality music wouldn't be a problem as there is an OGG player for DX. However there would probably be some copyright issues with using the music from the PS2 version.

DaveW · Post by **DaveW** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 7:45 pm

If only Eidos weren't so touchy on 'copyright infringement'.

Post by **Trestkon** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:33 pm

I believe this may be of interest to you.

EER · Post by **EER** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 10:59 pm

Trestkon wrote:I believe this may be of interest to you.

Nice!
OTP is linked as a dead site

http://www.tzang.com/hdmusic/links.html

Post by **Jonas** » Fri Nov 24, 2006 11:53 pm

Well, it sort of is, but he could at least link the TNM site too...

Post by **Trestkon** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:35 am

*goes to slap Slicer upside the head*

justanotherfan · Post by **justanotherfan** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 4:04 am

The demo, linked at the bottom here, sounds like some old 2.1 Altec Landsing computer speakers I had that had the ps/2-style audio plug damaged. It sounds better as music, but there's a lot more echo/reverb. Listening to the original for quality, I can see why musicians would dislike it for the low sampling quality, but videogame soundtracks are different from regular music. I still listen to the original Super Mario theme once in a while ;-)

fender2k1 of the DX:R project was working on converting the music to OGG for UT2004. He wasn't going to change instruments, just remastering the songs that hadn't been mastered, though who knows since that project is on hiatus.

Maybe I'm partial though, "The Synapse (Hong Kong Streets)" is probably my favourite track from all of DX (though the UNATCO theme, the New York streets tracks, and the DuClaire Chateau are maybe tied)

http://www.tzang.com/hdmusic/downloads.html

Colej_uk · Post by **Colej_uk** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:23 am

Cool link, I hope that project works out. It would go hand in hand with HDTP.

also found this though;

Unfortunately, Deus Ex uses tracking music to play music. It is possible to implement OGG, which will reduce file size by a huge amount, however, each and every map from Deus Ex is hardcoded with the music filename. Converting to OGG would mean re-editing and re-releasing the Deus Ex maps (290Mb).

So replacing the mods with the ps2 .ogg music would be pretty much out of the question, even without the copyright problems.

Post by **Jonas** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:36 pm

Not really, it'd just be a big download.

Big download != impossible.

EER · Post by **EER** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:39 pm

If Eidos wouldn't make a fuss about using the ps2 music, I think they would if you would practically offer DX itself (all maps) for download

I know I would, if I were Eidos.

Post by **Jonas** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 1:41 pm

It's not like you can actually open all those maps without owning the game. You'll need all the data and texture files.

Post by **DDL** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 5:13 pm

Any dynamic music (so..all of it) is dependent on the playerclass for playing, anyway, so it's not actually too hard to simply modify deusexplayer to include

Code: Select all

function updatedynamicmusic()
{
}

and then do it via ogg, but right now? ....fuck that.

Colej_uk · Post by **Colej_uk** » Sat Nov 25, 2006 7:11 pm

Eidos owe you guys for breathing new life into the game!

tzang · Post by **tzang** » Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:04 pm

Trestio owes me a cookie for making me come here! Answers to a few questions:

Eidos copyright thingabob
This is still uncertain. The original plan was to get the tracks remade by Alex Brandon himself. From what I recall, talks started but broke down a few weeks later... what Eidos said will never be known although I'm also uncertain as to whether Alex himself will be penalised for remastering his own music and releasing it. I'm no expert on the copyright laws so I won't know.

Massive files
There are two ways to approach remaking the DX music (ignoring the ogg path):
1) Replace all samples with high quality samples (and adding additional effects to spicen things up)
2) Recompose the music using a music creation program and chop up the music into sections before importing it as wave samples into tracker

The first method is easiest but if you want to use better sounding samples that lasts longer than the original samples, you may find the new samples cut out too early due to the way the tracks are composed. The files will also be small, around 10Mb at most.

The second method sounds best but you will be looking at files that can go over 50Mb per track as you need to consider death, convo, action, etc... music.

The OTP link
I know I put *dead site* on my web-site, I'll need to get that changed as I wrote that entire site in about 10 minutes or so (you will find that site is broken in IE6

). I will get that changed when my new notebook arrives (Dell estimates 4th December).

More content added soon.

Progress
I should have Paris Chateau done soon... schedule dependent (due to work & university). The main music in Hong Kong is simply Alex's remastered version, there have been a few things added/modified on my final version, which I will update on the downloads section.

BTW, great job on HDTP, keep it up!